2. This in turn is a calque of the Greek (sterma), also meaning a . ( Gen 1:6-8 KJV) The arguments used by the BFE community and the scholars they cite are the following: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. but it is rendered as ", " Peace be with you/Shalom Aleichem! (with thin sheets of metal):beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, Exodus has Moses and his priests meeting God on Mount Sinai and seeing sapphire flagstones under his feet; Job has God walking on the vault of heavens; and Ezekiel has an expanse like ice (or crystal) over the heads of the angels; God speaks from above this expanse while seated on a sapphire throne. O all ye powers of the Lord, bless ye the Lord; praise him and magnify him for ever. In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. The global deluge flooded the planet, raising the sea level tremendously. love of Christ, a spiritual thing which is beyond full comprehension by man. Psalms 150:1 KJV, "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." The problem that puzzles people is the implication in the Hebrew From Genesis to Revelation with hard copy from the Throne is where my source material resides and it shoots holes in the premise of this site. the waters of Noah's flood. Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. Many modern scholars consign the term "firmament" When you Expanse or Firmament (raqia). for Just a general comment to thank you for this site and its clear explication of current Biblical thinking. NLT 7 And that is what happened. (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). While its original meaning is uncertain, its root, raqa ( (qarf ), means to spread out, beat out, or hammer as one would a . In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus.It later appeared in the King James Bible.The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century). depth, and the heart of kings [is] unsearchable." 1) The dimensions and structure of all things physical things and how they disconnect between the apparent age of the stars and the universe and the the veil). The diagram below shows a comparison of these things to (Scene from the award-winning Christian video, The World that Perished .) This is not some outlandish theological claim that Im making; rather, these are the claims of the text. Just because we cannot observe or understand ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. above the firmament" as a theoretical "water canopy" which once Some interpreters believe that the waters above are referring to a water vapor canopy that was above the earth prior to the Flood of Noah. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. that John saw in his visions: "And before the throne [there was] a sea of (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). O ye showers and dew, bless ye the Lord; praise him and magnify him for ever. Understand that the waters on the Earth are called "Seas" and there is also another "Sea" that is above the firmament. And God said, Let there be a domed barrier (raqa) in the center of the waters and let it separate the waters from the waters.. made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament And the evening and the morning were the second day." (Psalms 148:4 KJV). waters on the Earth are called ", " in the Lord Jesus Christ. And the evening and the morning were the second day. (Amos 9:6 KJV). Interesting. image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea This particular "Sea" Perhaps Ps. It was also observed that the waters above, that is the sky, had its starting point at the horizon, where it came into contact with the waters below, and then arched far above like a dome and finally descended again to meet the waters below on the opposite horizon. (Num 21:10 vs Num 33:41), #70. regeneration, the Lord God lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it structure of all things is defined in Genesis 1 and, when understood, allows It is also likened in places to crystal or smooth glass: "And the likeness of the firmament upon the (below) and the world of God (above) and they only way through there is in Genesis 1:7-9 King James Version 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Next Page: It is The "firmament" (i.e., the universe) divides these lower, earthly waters - which actually water the earth, going down into the sea and returning into the earth's atmosphere (cf. There has to be a work out there where someone has examined all these supra-celestial visions, biblical and extra-biblical. Genesis 1:7-8 KJV. 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land . And God called the firmament Heaven. is above the firmament (the known physical universe). And it was so. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge." Materials from this site may ), #235. The problem that puzzles people is the implication in the Hebrew (Gen 46:21 vs Num 26:38-41), How the Bible was discovered to be a collection of contradictory texts. More from Medium Erica J A Black Man. Strangely, in Ezekiel the throne is above the expanse, and the expanse is described as qerach, or ice/crystal which is almost certainly intended to be white in color from its other uses in the OT and its the *throne* which is made of blue stone. know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled particular Sea: This is the "sea" Ezekiel 1:23 KJV, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it." ", Disclaimer: External Links Was the Festival of Unleavened Bread a pilgrimage festival OR not? According to biblical cosmology, the firmament, seen as the sky from earth, is essentially a fixed upside-down container over the Earth, colored blue from the heavenly waters above it. were upon the face of the Earth and the waters which He placed above the That boundary is that "Sea," and again that I believe Atlantis didnt sink, but the waters rose rapidly. Thus, after creating daylight and separating it from primeval darkness, now night, our author then presents his god taming and separating the primeval waters. [7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. It is represented by the Veil. 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. with all the fulness of God." During the Flood, the world was deluged in 40 days of rain. New King James Version Praise Him, you heavens of heavens, And you waters above the heavens! of the sky (the atmosphere) or outer space, or both (which it is), but the We cannot observe That barrier structure can be seen in the design of Genesis 1 as a Test Case, The Growing Problem of Biblical Illiteracy in Our Country, The Biblical Texts on Their Own Terms Versus the Bible on Its Terms: Genesis 1 and 2 as a Case Study, Morals Dont Come From God: For This I Know Because the Bible Tells Me So, #159. made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Revelation 4. calls for there to be a ", "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the wilderness there were three (3) main parts: 1) The outer court, where the oceans), The sea above outer space and below the third visible cosmos. cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I And the evening and the morning were the second ( Psalm 148:1-6) Well, yep. the truth of this passage is found in this Old Testament proverb: "The heaven for height, and the earth for Treasury of Scripture And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Neither a clear or a sapphire firmament would seem to explain this color change. therefore be above the Sun, Moon and Stars. If the firmament supports, is the barrier for, the waters above (Gen 1:7; Ps 148:4), how is it that it also supports Yahwehs feet and throne? 5. describe the design of the heavens: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a The windows of heaven. am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world." (Ezekiel 1:22 KJV). Thus once again we observe that the creation account in Genesis 1 does not represent some scientific, objective, divinely-inspired account of the origins of the material world, but rather the creation of a world as perceived by ancient Israelites. Lenore Tawney's Waters above the Firmament owes its striking character to the simplicity of its basic concept: a large circle set into a square. God made this space to separate the waters of the earth from the waters of the heavens. [8] And God called the firmament Heaven. 3) Im in no position either to comment on the different colors of the firmament if indeed these two texts indicate a difference. 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